Native American Analog?
  • Is there an analog to Native Americans in the Far West?
  • GMSkarkaGMSkarka +1 -1 (+2 / -0 )
    If you mean an indigenous people being displaced by the expansion of settlers in their land, then no, there isn't.

    By way of explanation:

    1) The game is a mash-up of Spaghetti Westerns and Wuxia. The reason for this is because I noticed that the two genres are analogous, and wanted to explore that.

    2) Spaghetti Westerns seldom featured Native Americans -- most often they were set in border locations, and featured Mexican peasants. (Reasons varied for this -- 1960s desire to do political revolution stories -- another feature echoed in wuxia, btw -- and Spanish and Italian actors more readily able to play Latinos rather than Native Americans, plus the usual filming location of Almeira Spain being a dead-ringer for the Mexican border, complete with arid desert and white-wash adobe villages). There were a handful of German westerns featuring a Native American character (Winnetou) as the main character, but that is a true outlier in a genre that had hundreds of films.

    3) Our world is a FANTASY world -- not the historical West -- and based more on a blending of China with the vague geographies of Spaghetti Westerns. This will be more obvious when people see the game itself. It's not even an alternate-historical West. It's pure fantasy -- like Stephen King's Dark Tower "Midworld."

    4) In wuxia, there is no direct analogue of the "displaced indigenous culture" in their stories. There are ethnic minorities, yes -- but not really "natives" as such. Given that, and the Spaghetti Western lack of Native Americans, it seemed out of place to include such a culture -- since I'm specifically going for a blend of those two specific things.

    FAR WEST does have ethnic minorities. Absolutely. What we don't have is an analogue to "indigenous displaced people", for the reasons I cite above.
  • If I may add, the Winnetou series are not nearly as hard-bitten and bullet-riddled as Spaghetti western but cultivate the tone of the „noble savage“ and an almost Disney-like purity of the heroes like the books they are loosely based upon. Comparing them to Spaghetti Western is like comparing Agatha Christie to Dirty Harry. What other Teutonic Western exist are usually low-budget productions with gossamer-thin stories and dialogue that makes you cringe. They were usually German-Italian-Jugoslawian co-productions so there is a certain Spaghetti element in some but you´d be hard pressed to find an anti-hero.

    Speaking of minorities, the naming conventions and descriptions in the “Tales of the Far West” seem to suggest that there is indeed an ethnic minority that can be compared to European or Anglo-Saxon stock, especially in the outward regions. Is that correct?
  • GMSkarkaGMSkarka +1 -1 (+1 / -0 )
    Marcm02 said:

    Speaking of minorities, the naming conventions and descriptions in the “Tales of the Far West” seem to suggest that there is indeed an ethnic minority that can be compared to European or Anglo-Saxon stock, especially in the outward regions. Is that correct?



    There are several, yes -- the biggest (and most present in TALES) being the Castalan, who hail from the Thousand Mesas.

    Plus: Marcm02

  • That definitely makes sense given the indicated size of the map and explains the in-character portraits of the backers that as far as I know will appear in the upcoming rulebook (or have appeared already in a limited edition). My take at the moment is that the Asian majority might live closer to the core of the Empire while the Caucasian (or African for that matter) ethnic groups constitute the “Barbarians” and rednecks from the armpit of the Empire. I wonder if one day they find themselves in the role of Native Americans, provided the August Throne has resources and reasons enough to push outward with force.

Howdy, Stranger!

It looks like you're new here. If you want to get involved, click one of these buttons!